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HJBee
30-03-2015, 03:13 PM
Attended the 2 day course at SASA this weekend. I found it thoroughly enjoyable and the 2 days flew by. Now invested in 2 microscopes I'm looking forward to receiving for my poor weather beekeeping activities. A few photos to share, unfortunately my bank balance could not go to the cost for the dissecting Microscope I used on the course. Anyone want a shot at identifying the part of anatomy, the disease, the pollen?
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/30/4b48d56d25fb5b0a4993f09bb3aed93e.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/30/f4c7eb1f205bc24723d8c25a2a06fb0d.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/30/d213982427ac7d6d8f1dd3f146300bd0.jpg
gavin
30-03-2015, 03:45 PM
Errmmm .... well, some look real dodgy!
(I'm barred from answering due to spending a couple of days with the ladies at SASA a few weeks ago ... and having been a professional palynologist until recently ... although I may have been stumped on the pollen one myself. Go on then, give us an idea of scale for the last one.)
Neils
30-03-2015, 04:58 PM
No idea about the pollen and not sure if we've got spoiler tags enabled but I'll try:
Disease is acarine
Anatomy is the sting and related parts
HJBee
30-03-2015, 05:11 PM
Scale is appx 100 micron, quite a big pollen for such a small plant. It's seasonal too.
HJBee
30-03-2015, 05:12 PM
No idea about the pollen and not sure if we've got spoiler tags enabled but I'll try:
Bang on Neil!
Kate Atchley
30-03-2015, 05:15 PM
As you gathered ... some adept beekeepers on the course! And yes ... fascinating and fun. A clue perhaps ... I think the pollen's the one that can be used as a base measure?
Neils
30-03-2015, 05:27 PM
Bang on Neil!
Phew! I will admit to having done a few of those disease tests, but I've never done that dissection.
gavin
30-03-2015, 05:41 PM
Well then ..... it looks to me rather like larch (without its normal granules) but that's not a small plant! Larch pollen is about 80 microns across.
Standards for microscopy are often hazel (and it isn't hazel) or Lycopodium spores and its not that either.
Here is larch from the Austrian database (https://www.pollenwarndienst.at/fi/allergy-infos/aerobiologics/pollen-atlas.html?letter=L):
https://www.pollenwarndienst.at/uploads/tx_atlas/Larix_decidua_1_01.jpg
PS Spoiler tags?! I'm off to Google ....
gavin
30-03-2015, 05:50 PM
Spoiler tags: For vBulletin 4 you need an add-on via code inserted somewhere, lots of debate about upgrades to vBulletin breaking it in Firefox, hmmnn. We can live without it.
Neils
30-03-2015, 05:59 PM
They are picked up by tapatalk however :)
Pete L
30-03-2015, 07:06 PM
Crocus pollen?
Black Comb
30-03-2015, 07:31 PM
I agree with Pete
alan riach
31-03-2015, 03:10 PM
Pollen looks like Crocus which can vary from 60 to over 100 micron - Characteristics : round, large, no visible apertures, granular surface, thin exine (& spring)
Hazel is the "marker" pollen - shaped like the rotor of a Wankel engine (triangular with curved convex sides) and 25micron (a Wankel rotor has a constant diameter when measured through the centroid - as far as I know Herr Wankel did not keep bees but I may be wrong).
Alan
HJBee
01-04-2015, 07:26 AM
A few correct answers here!
Bumble
02-04-2015, 12:19 AM
A clue perhaps ... I think the pollen's the one that can be used as a base measure?
I haven't the faintest clue about pollen, mainly because I'm too tight fisted to buy an identification book at the full price and don't have easy access to a microscope, but I'm fairly sure I heard (or read somewhere) not long ago that British honey always contains Forget Me Not pollen. If true, interesting, if not then totally irrelevant. :)
HJBee
06-04-2015, 06:22 PM
Pollen was Crocus & Disease was Acarine & bee part was sting and associated parts.
Kate Atchley
06-04-2015, 09:17 PM
Having been on the course too was pointed to this sight with some useful anatomy pics: http://www.understandingbeeanatomy.com.
Kate Atchley
07-04-2015, 09:43 AM
On the case for pollen ... can anyone identify the brown twigs with little brown catkins, now opening to show yellow pollen. It grows low and plentiful at the boggy end of my garden and I think my be Eared Willow?
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The pics too small ... ugh?
gavin
07-04-2015, 12:25 PM
The software shrinks images if uploaded. If you park them on a photosharing site then link to them from here they will be displayed at that size. The one below is on wildflowerfinder.co.uk.
Could be if it has willow-like catkins. I take it isn't bog myrtle?
http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/Flowers/B/BogMyrtle/Myrtle(Bog)_2012_04_20_Broughton_077p8.jpg
Kate Atchley
07-04-2015, 01:42 PM
So if I add a non-public page to my website, I could upload pics there and they could be shown in all their glory here?
I don't remember bog myrtle in that spot but could be. It's the sort of site they like.
gavin
07-04-2015, 01:59 PM
Time will tell with the bog myrtle - or the scaly buds are diagnostic.
Yes, just place the images in a folder on your web space and insert the link via 'insert image' above. I shrink mine to 800 pixels wide so that the size on here doesn't get silly.
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