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Poly Hive
03-11-2012, 04:33 PM
Interesting experience yesterday. I went to buy a hat and veil from Dadant in the States, total cost some $24 odd. Then the shipping bit... $152!!!!!!!!!!!!

I stopped at that point and deleted, then mailed them to say why. Madness.

PH

Neils
03-11-2012, 05:29 PM
That's pretty impressive. I did ship a few jars of honey to the US last year and the postage was around £60 for 3 jars or so!

Black Comb
04-11-2012, 11:11 AM
Had a similar experience trying to buy a book. They only send abroad UPS expedited.
I mailed them too. Don't hold your breath.
Managed to buy the book at the honey show.

Adam
06-11-2012, 05:18 PM
Nellie,
I didn't think that the USA allowed honey imports?

Calum
06-11-2012, 06:33 PM
Nellie,
I didn't think that the USA allowed honey imports?
niether does the uk, they don't check every parcel arriving in the uk though, I suppose they don't have dogs trained for it either... Blackmarket honey does not command the same prices as 'afghan black' mores the pity :).
As they say in Germany where the police don't look the law does not apply, or something along those lines...

prakel
06-11-2012, 08:10 PM
Nellie,
I didn't think that the USA allowed honey imports?

I was under the impression that they import massive quantities of honey -unless the rules have changed very recently.

Calum
06-11-2012, 08:19 PM
Parkel right enough according to the homeland security website (http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml) (!)
Food Products (Prepared)
Many prepared foods are admissible. However, bush meat made from African wildlife and almost anything containing meat products, such as bouillon, soup mixes, etc., is not admissible. As a general rule, condiments, vinegars, oils, packaged spices, honey, coffee and tea are admissible. Because rice can often harbor insects, it is best to avoid bringing it into the United States. Some imported foods are also subject to requirements of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

in the UK: (http://www.food.gov.uk/business-industry/imports/want_to_import/animalimports/honey#.UJliom9mKIU)
Each batch (or 'consignment') of honey that you import must:

come from a country approved to export this type of product to the European Union (EU)
come from an establishment registered by the competent authority of the exporting country
be accompanied by a health certificate
enter the EU through a Border Inspection Post where veterinary checks must be carried out.....

Calum
06-11-2012, 08:24 PM
U.S. Food and Drug Administration is another matter, this is a good read! (http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_111.html) This too! (http://www.newsytype.com/13496-honey-fda-guidelines/)

Mellifera Crofter
06-11-2012, 08:50 PM
I checked when I wanted to bring back some delicious South African Jacaranda honey. This DEFRA (https://www.gov.uk/bringing-food-animals-plants-into-uk/food)page says that for personal use, you can import up to 2kg of honey.
Kitta

prakel
06-11-2012, 09:11 PM
OK, I didn't say it was easy....
Here's an excerpt from FDA Import Refusal Reports for Honey (Dec. 2007 to Nov. 2008) Table ll. which was reprinted in the
American Bee Journal
Volume 149 No.4.
April 2009.
'Continuing Efforts to Safeguard U.S. Honey Imports' by Sylvia A.Ezenwa.


Month of Report: March 08
Mfg Country: U.K
Importers Product Description: Heather Honey
Refusal Date: Mar 13, 08
Reason for refusal: Package or label does not list:- required nutritional information; Label violates federal Fair Packaging and Labeling Act because of it's placement, form, and/or contents statement.

Lots of shipments from other countries too. The only other U.K shipment in that report was 'Honey' and refused on the following grounds:


Package or label does not list:- common or usual name of each ingredient -quantity of content (i.e., weight, measure, or numerical count) -required nutritional information.

prakel
07-11-2012, 10:02 AM
According to this:

http://www.agmrc.org/commodities__products/livestock/bees-profile



Imports
To meet demand, the United States imported honey valued at $387.9 million in 2011, primarily from Argentina, India, Vietnam, Brazil and Canada.

I'm assuming that this is the resale figure.

Neils
07-11-2012, 10:51 AM
You can send honey and other food items as gifts. When its for commercial sale there may well be restrictions.